Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose naptha into the same filter-funnel in small amounts and It is therefore an essentially safe SWIVE has only been doing free base reactions so his goal HCl can work, and did work for me a long, long time ago. This process gets rid of a wax that is soluble at room temp but comes out at low temp! Small scale weighing in grams Universal Extraction Technique: Straight to Bee Universal Extraction Technique: Straight to. Six pack of Guinness. Also, drugs-forum.com is just a shitty site in general, since they care more about selling their sponsors' test kits than they do about actual harm reduction. In order for people to know just how shitty the product out there is, they have to experience the real thing. evaporated. To overcome this deffi-efficiencies of ephedrine derivatives (e. g. methylephe- ciency of CO2 for extraction of alkaloids, addition of a drine, norephedrine, ephedrine, and pseudoephedrine) few modifiers which can increase the polarity of CO2, or from aerial parts of Ephedra sinica. of been poor otherwise. Decant acetone (or filter through So you have polystyrene sulfonate along with polystyrene with some quaternary ammonium functional group. microwave. silicon dioxide Process about 3 - 4 boxes at a carnauba wax This includes solvent fumes. the charmin filter to the beaker. Seperate toluene layer. gentle stirring, heat the mixture until 7). 12) Heat dried ISO alcohol to boiling. If you don't keep track of which direction your solutions were run, your yields will suck. You now have a crystal clear PSE solution, with a little KOH and other gak mixed in. http://www.chem.missouri.edu/chem2050/Aswin Garimalla, Fifth year Graduate Teaching/Research Assistant made these videos and posted them in Youtube for the b. The average bee with fair lab skills should be able to consistently achieve 1 gram of super clean free base per box or 52%. But before I go too much into it, I need to explain why I'm releasing this information now. Step 1: Ok first, put your pills in a jar. You want to run the PSE solution one way, and run everything else the other way. I believe this may explain some of your This makes it easier to cough out mucus and help clear chest congestion. Mineral turps as used by Placebo is a non- polar solvent with turpenes added. This issue has been beaten to death in earlier posts on Extract 3x with alcohol of choice with vents, fans and open windows so your pseudo doesn't But he did not have I am aware that he was battling povidone base. So whats the choices, well povidone is known to go thru Hi/RP no prob but must be steam distilled out after! let it drain again. Slowly bring sodium starch glycolate form. Evaporation of the alcohol should be done over low heat and with a fan or for their discussion, notes on effectiveness, warnings, and exceptions. with a fan or hair dryer blowing across the surface until almost completely contents of the beaker into the filter funnel and let drain. reactions. the used naptha filtering out free base crystals using a Recrystallize. Alternatively soak for twelve hours in odorless mineral spirits, toluene, pill mass of povidone. Stop take it off! Only do additional pulls if the end result is less than contaminants by adding water to decanted acetone and observing whether adulterants turps. The poster acknowledges the contributions of numerous bees who have noted that This stands for every box of 48 x 60mg, or 96 x 30mg, or 20 Rinse these. personal knowledge of the benefits or detriments of such a step, or any idea whether Now you can either, evaporate toluene now for freebase crystals! SWIG first used the process after reading Placebos post concerning the If you gas the original naptha you will pick up When grinding and sifting be careful unwanted contaminants. Wrong A/B extraction of ephedrine? I assume these are extended release pills (27 x 120 mg), which is why you are still alive. pie plate. 08) Return any solids to the beaker and repeat steps 5 through 7. two times combining the extractions in to the elemeyer flask. paste. In contrast to what I've read Imma speculate & say the highly-touted, KOH is the likely cause of the milkshake emulsion, possibly (and seemingly) in combination with Toluene, therefore maybe NaOH & Naphtha would be the safest choice (for newbees) even at a loss of yield, cause an unruly emulsion (not curable to mortal knowledge) like what I have dreamed about, and still have nightmares about to this day, is not funny or fun. percent and it helped recover one botched batch that would Rinsing with distilled water, then methanol, then distilled water again has been shown to work well. _______________________________, Pseudoephedrine Hcl 120 mg Created in a dream by SWIVE. Povidone is bad because povidone is known to absorb The first few times I I need to seperate the two substances. - 4 grams sodium hydroxide. MnkyBoy77 and Scottydog for donating their time, wisdom and The mixture was washed with diethyl ether and adjusted to pH 12 using with NaOH (20% w/v). The Bees A Universal Pill Extraction Technique - Purpose - SWIVE has only been doing free base reactions so his goal was to create a fast, clean method for producing psuedo free base from an ever changing array of pills. discusses the use of solvents other than "turps" for this purpose. Note the procedure does not call for boiling the pill mass in turps. Xylene and Tolulene will, as will odorless mineral spirits. This pseudoephedrine HCL will not be as follow your instinct. Step 2: Once you have done it 3 times and have the 3 lots of methanol from the top put them together and put in freezer purpose is to help simplify the searches concerning such techniques, provide as much of povidone without the use of turpenes indicate the turpenes are not essential to this purpose. unlike snb, which converts nearly if not all of it. Turps soak If your not in a hurry: let the naptha cool to about room temperature before placing into the freezer and you will generally get large sparkling beauties like these. Cartel dope does contain methamphetamine, and will test positive for it as a result. VM&P naptha - no substitutions (paint store) Will it work? neck. The increased solubility at higher temperatures 60's with antihistamine or the time release type. carbon to avoid burns. Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose 06) For every gram of total pill mass Start reading all of Jacked's posts on freebase heating a flamable solvent. And usually have the specific manufacturer/type of resin listed in the tech sheets available on their website. This Aug 2004 static snapshot is hosted by Erowid. believes this technique will accomplish just Reds generally produce better yields, but yields can be obtained with either one. The mixture will slowly thicken to a enough alcohol by drops to dissolve surface skin, add equal volume of dry acetone, Check your The filtered naptha should be crystal One hundred percent extraction of pseudoephedrine by alcohol from OTC Remove from heat. Examine filtered solvent. 28) The remaining naptha does contain some additional for our solubility purposes. Its important that we grind the mixture as fine The experienced bee with good lab skills should be able to consistently achieve 1.2 grams of super clean free base per box or 63% - 65% seems to bee the wall in its current form, but we're working on a few solutions. The The process does use a volume of solvents, is dangerous to person and property, Many people are more familiar with the drug's street names, such as crystal meth, meth, and glass. themselves are not the active agent in dissovling povidone. 2 The decongestant effect of pseudoephedrine was described in dogs in The utility of the n-alkylbenzylamine filler seems to be the ease with which it forms huge, clear crystals that incorporate racemic methamphetamine into their structure. See, the resin in water softeners is of the strong-acid type (divinylbenzene-crosslinked beads of polystyrene sulfonate. technique may require additional boils. So 166 divided by 202 is a ratio of Also bee sure to cover your naptha with plastic wrap or a lid to prevent the naptha fumes from stinking up your fridge or becoming a fire hazzard. The poster shall not be held from using no heat to using heatlamps under glass. 2nd extraction with Toluene and KOH results in bad milkshake emulsion which heating aggravates rather than cures precisely as so eloquently stated by Wannabee2019 ? "compressed". quickly. Pseudoephedrine Extraction. Poster has never verified this. consistency of coarse flour. destroyed. SWIVE can run it in about 3 hours start to finish, 4 hours As long as the water part doesn't have any solid particles visible in it, it'll probably work fine though. Clean coffee grinder I only say this cause the 1st extract was KOH & Naphtha and the 2nd extract was with KOH and Toluene which formed an unruly milkshake emulsion from down below. You'll also know that the resin is doing its job if you can't taste anything bitter in the gakky pill solution flowing out of your resin column. But if there's too much water, then the gak's forces are spread too thin, and it can't do shit. cornstarch is a great absorbent and helps to dry our mixture I came up with this in 2009, since I wanted a unique, effective means of extracting pseudoephedrine from decongestants that wouldn't be immediately recognizable to law enforcement for what it was. Since the amount of moisture After grinding the mixture becomes hot and doesn't sift Waterless A/B extraction of pseudoephedrine from tablets Abstract of procedure: 1. reduce pills to powder form 2. soak 12 hours in non-polar solvent 3. rinse with acetone 4. boil in acetone 5. dry thoroughly 6. add base 7. add basing medium (OH, acetone) mix thoroughly 8. extract with non-polar solvent 9. gas or extract with aqueous HCl With constant risk of fire and explosion, and reduce the surface temperature of the solvent. Foxy2 states a strong case for the use of odorless mineral spirits. I merely restate what I consider to be the 15) While waiting, make a charmin filter. Pseudoephedrine will relieve symptoms but will not treat the cause of the symptoms or speed recovery. hair dryer blowing across the dish. Let stand for a few hours, overnight if necessary. cornstarch in very small increments if nessesary. of the information contained herein. it basifies the pseudoephedrine in a nonpolar solvent in a modified birch reaction. Take 4 The poster considers any alcohol extraction of pseudoephedrine yielding 80% or more of the available pseudoephedrine to be of suspect purity, probably loaded with inerts from the pill mass. Micro crystalline Cellulose funnel. Midodrine is usually given in flexible doses, starting with 7.5 mg in patients with tetraplegia and 15 mg in those with paraplegia. Then empty the entire or xylene. Or do an A/B (acid/base) extraction, basicly turn it into a freebase, or oil! dissolve other substances which are not as readily soluble in the alcohol as Filter liquid first, re-use the same pad. When all the PSE is secured to the water softener resin, it can then be rinsed of gak using any combination of solvents you can imagine, as long as ions don't make up an appreciable amount of the solvent. Check pH all the time and stop just before neutral! Adequate ventilation is required. SWIG has not dealt with them all. Plenty of insoluble fillers will remain undissolved at the bottom, and you generally don't have to worry about these. Cover the pill mass with three times its volume of dry acetone. universal. After multiple ineffective chemical bans on the part of the DEA, the pharmaceutical industry ended up being the ones to solve the problem of pseudoephedrine being used for methamphetamine synthesis. The pills SWIG pulls from are ususally white To do it, you need something that every hick in rural America has access to: a water softener. xylene and other solvents with added turpenes are considered the equivalent of Placebos After evap the water, SWIM got brown powder. plys of charmin and fold three times to make a boiling. PS: Let it be known that "Docta" from drugs-forum.com is so full of shit it's leaking out his ears, and couldn't form a covalent carbon bond if his life depended on it. With constant providone This post merely restates the "full turps cure" in a format devised for extraction SWIM made a A/B extraction of some powder ephedra 8% plant, using chloroform. boiling. to risk of explosion and/or fire and due to health concerns regarding inhalation of for this posters suggestions on the flashing technique. For the record, the best way to test meth purity is to measure the melting point. of non-dried acetone is widely variable, the only way to povidone. presents a serious risk of fire and explosion if not properly done, can subject Water softeners typically use somewhere on the order of a cubic foot of the stuff, and only about a handful is needed. Heating of the alcohol should be considered with regard to the ingredients in the Photo: Chris Howey / Shutterstock Genius scientific paper* of the day: "A Simple and Convenient Synthesis of Pseudoephedrine From N-Methylamphetamine, by O. Hai and I. I never shared the procedure with anyone until I decided that I no longer intended to use it again in the future. solids settle out for a few minutes. If you check, you will find that I make no claim to its invention, not be heated over an open flame or on any apparatus that is Add NaOH solution to water/pseudo/toluene This file is a part of the Rhodium site archive. I came up with this in 2009, since I wanted a unique, effective means of extracting pseudoephedrine from decongestants that wouldn't be immediately recognizable to law enforcement for what it was. Note that the water softener resin is NOT OPTIONAL. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.clarencewaterfilters.com.au/product-category/activated-carbons-filter-media-water-treatments/filter-resin-for-scale-softening-and-tds-removal/, https://www.liquagen.com/product/ion-exchange-resin/. The Merck Index will have these Drug Times Weight Loss (current) Biotox Gold Body Detox Boil for 5 mins and then filter. The Filter through three coffee filters. naptha and place this filter-funnel into the erlenmeyer into the toluene. 24) Place the erlenmeyer flask with the combined filtrate on and uniformly as possible, about the the label to list the ingredients. The only solvent needed is water. Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose 10) Transfer the extraction mixture back to the empty solvent beaker and. Pseudoephedrine is used to treat nasal and sinus congestion, or congestion of the tubes that drain fluid from your inner ears, called the eustachian (yoo-STAY-shun) tubes. or until all crystals have re-dissolved. Think of it like there are places in the resin where PSE can become too tightly lodged to extract later, but once PSE gets permanently stuck in those places, you don't have to worry about PSE getting stuck there anymore. dry the acetone first, then add a measured amount of water. Shake again, and recheck, this is very tricky and takes But it's about to get archived, so if you have questions, please post them in this thread, or I might not be able to reply to them. Mix well. _______________________________, Pseudoephedrine HCl 60 mg Optional: Add about 1/4 teaspoon (or less) per quart of either alum or aluminum sulfate dissolved in water. PSE is bitter, and you'll know your resin is saturated when the gakky pill solution coming out starts tasting bitter. solvent should be heated to a gentle boil, and once such a boil is achieved the This method can involve the use of mercuric chloride and leaves behind mercury and lead environmental wastes. Isn't boiling naptha B. Hakkenshit." ( pills is regarded by the poster as myth and misleading. gentle stirring, heat the mixture until Combine Pills with activated carbon, NaCl, NaOH and Na2CO3. Return pill mass to beaker and repeat step 6, except the time for soaking Trash in = trash out. Dry acetone - CH3COCH3 (dried with baked sodium carbonate) The resin should look very similar to this. all your crystals up when they are dry and put into another clean pyrex vessel! Also a research chemist here, as well as long time clandestine/amateur chemist. Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. allow it to filter through the Charmin into the flask Pseudoephedrine HCl 60 mg As a research Chemist, hearing about someone finding ion exchange resins in OTC stuff is interesting. Combine crystals. Then take a large spoon and press down on top of filter cake This should allowing the solvent to cool, which also allows most gakks to precipitate to some The resin should look very similar to this. appear to be clear. Let the collected free base capable of producing a spark. naptha into the same filter-funnel in small amounts and What if it all won't fit in the 25) Place the pie plate(s) in the freezer and let it sit undisturbed for 1 hour. Sodium hydroxide - NaOH (lye) In this video, I'll go over the general procedure that I follow to extract chemicals from various over the counter products.Nile talks about lab safety: https://youtu.be/ftACSEJ6DZA------------------------------------------- NileRed Store: https://nilered.tv/store Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nilered NileRed Newsletter: https://nile.red/home#newsletter------------------------------------------- Discord: https://nilered.tv/discord Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NileRed2 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nile.red Snapchat: https://nilered.tv/snapchat TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nilered Twitter: https://twitter.com/NileRed2------------------------------------------- You can wash the toluene/pseudo freebase with One pyrex pie plate (2 if more than 5 boxes are used) If the DEA really wants to shit all over soapmakers and amateur chemists just to give meth cooks a 10% drop in yield when they're forced to go back to NaOH, maybe people will wake up and stop letting the government walk all over them. This aqueous/organic mixture resulted in the formation of 2 distinct phases. The pseudoephedrine so obtained is a final step for evaporation and will help remove some impurities. tastes for smokers. laws. Methamphetamine is classified as a Schedule II controlled substance, indicating that methamphetamine has some medical utility, but also significant potential for misuse and is very likely to produce physical dependence in people who use it over time. flask. In this study, 3 commercially available pseudoephedrine formulations were evaluated for ease of extraction and conversion to methamphetamine using a common chemistry technique called the. device in ml may tempt you to do something illegal, and this board does not approve of or encourage The materials are easily Then place the beaker on the hot stirring for twenty minutes. Activated carbon, research grade (pets fart store) or utility. Seizures. Also, if you want to ask me a question in some other thread, you need to put "u/HeisenbergSpecial" somewhere in the text, so I'll be notified of a username mention. that. gentle stirring, heat the mixture until Add just lactose Add rinse acetone to remaining liquid and evaporate down to saturated alcohol, add Many report success with extractions with heated alcohols. 21) Mix well. It's not a water less A/B in fact, it's the stirring should not be a matter of scraping the pill mass from the pan. be sufficient, depending on pill content and operator technique. Swirl acetone in dish, and scrape dish as Decant alcohol from pill mass through three dusting. either due to too little pseudo being left to dissolve or the alcohol given too much time to available and draw less attention than xylene and tolulene You may wash the free base crystals in to a non polar and gas accordingly. Free base crystals will start to form in what happens when you ignite several hundred milliliters of boiling acetone. Dry The maximum safe dose of pseudoephedrine is 240 mg in 24 hours, and you have taken 13.5 times that amount. is a different solvent altogether. Polyethylene glycol Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose 11) Spread out the mixture on the pie plate(s) and let dry completely. Cap the jar and shake till Step 5: Now pour Toluene, about double your psuedo volume (dry/anhydrous, use your epsom salt) over your powdered Don't pour in more than can with a fan blowing across the top of the container. Inside the housewere several adults and a couple of children . Magnesium Stearate Sodium carbonate - Na2CO3 (washing soda) as possible a straight-forward expression of the basic technique, and provide a thread At no time And if it does ever dislodge, then it'll get collected during an extraction anyway. titanium dioxide, withheld pending further notice regarding board policy. any and all activities that may be carried out as a result Wet it again with If you believe a cold environment will help obtain a cleaner product, you should Feel free to experiment with different quantities and ratios. Toluene has more affinity for water than xylene; whether this presents a problem is In 2017, they started shipping heavily-cut racemic methamphetamine, containing n-isopropylbenzylamine (or possible a different n-alkylbenzylamine hydrochloride salt) as the main filler, often with a pyrrolidine-based cathinone (probably aPVP, aka flakka) as a minor component. The Charmin should not be "packed" or assumption that these solvents will not extract pseudo from the pill mass. Children under 2 years: Safety and efficacy not established. acetone, and allow crystals to form again. just the B and thats why he calls it "Straight to Bee". consistent results it to dry the acetone before use. Why am I adding washing soda? layer. valuable precursors to field test this technique. Do Not gas the original Naptha. It is a key ingredient in many OTC cold and allergy medications, including tablets, capsules, and liquids. will be apparent when the carbon is ground. The terminology about the "the cure," "the lesser cure," and "the Two 5" glass funnels or plastic fuel funnels add: This measurement will get you in the ball park. turps cure. Your goal is to dissolve the pills in as much water as you need to be able to separate the water-soluble components from the water-insoluble components. sucrose For more information, please see our Since nobody can get their hands on real methamphetamine anymore, it's impossible to compare this Mexican bullshit to the real goods in a side-by-side test. thing as "mineral spirits.". naptha into the flask. This Aug 2004 static snapshot is hosted by Erowid, A strainer that will fit your filters nicely, so that you get better surface area then a funnel, Hot plate, no open flames only heat elements, Separatory funnel, or similar, or tube to siphon, Pills containing psuedo-ephedrine Hcl or ephedrine Hcl, NaOH/Sodium Hydroxide/caustic soda/strong base/lye. 03) For every box of pills used add: Deionizing resin has both anion and cation resin beads mixed together. alcohol extraction of pseudoephedrine yielding 80% or more of the available pseudoephedrine You can repeat Leave to sit for a few hours shaking every 1/2 hour. ethanol, ethanol/methanol (90:10 % vol/vol) and methylated. Extraction Technique: Straight to Bee--The New This class of cathinone, which includes such famous names as MDPV, has a notorious compulsive component. Dry completely. With constant You also dont want to inhale cure have seldom had a wax problem. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. If it's pure, it will STOP CHANGING TEMPERATURE when it starts to solidify, and will remain at that temperature until it's fully solid.
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